Expert Review - Tata Indigo MANZA : The perfect Steer
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What is the first impression that comes into your mind when you think of Tata cars? Most would say a taxi. But one look at the Manza and all those impressions will be out of the window. Instead you start to think of Style, Luxury and the word BIG comes to your mind - especially when you have a look at the boot. It looks like a proper Sedan. It may not be perfect but by no way does it look like a boot that has been put onto a hatchback. And all that’s even before you have a look at the interiors. The car is loaded with safety and luxury features that have probably made its entrance for the first time on any Tata product. Even the Base Variant comes with AC, Tilt Power Steering, Front Power windows, Central Locking, Rear Armrest and, yes, even a 2 DIN music system!
The Vista, the Nano and now the Manza have shown how Tata has matured over the years. Result of about 50 lakh KM of testing between the Vista and the Manza. Quality, finish and refinement is far superior to any other Tata product to date, even the Vista. The Manza is assembled alongside the Linea. The quality of paint and parts (sans a few which have obviously been sourced from an older product) are hence similar to the more expensive Linea and of very good quality.
Exterior and Design
The Manza has a very elegant poise. The clean lines, steep Windscreen angle and loads of chrome all around add to its character. On the top end model, you have chrome above the Radiator Grill, on the Bumpers, on the side moldings, the door handles and even above the back number plate.
The squared rear makes it look much larger then it actually is. The longish three-barreled headlight is inspired from the Vista but not completely taken off it. The famous Indica radiator smile now has more straight lines and looks kind of like an inverted trapezium. Like the Indica, the side indicators are neatly placed just below the OVRMs. The shoulder line on the car is also more pronounced.
The 15” wheels look good and fill up the Wheel Arches nicely. The large wheelbase coupled with the 15” wheels give the Manza good handling manners.
The Manza is 4413 mm long as compared to 4160mm for the Swift Dzire, 4282mm and for the Ford Fiesta. Width and Height is also more than its rivals with 1703mm and 1550mm for the Manza, 1690mm and 1530mm for the Dzire and 1686mm and 1468mm for the Fiesta respectively. Ground clearance is about 165mm and the bottom never scraped the surface anytime during the 350 odd kilometers that I had the car with me. Wheelbase is also the largest at 2520mm. Only the Logan compares favourably to the Manza in dimensions.
Interiors of Tata Manza
Interiors are where the Manza scores highly. The cabin feels airy and there is a sense of space. In fact, interior space is probably one of the main USPs of the Manza. The large windscreen and beige interiors accentuate the space. The A pillar is small and does not restrict much vision, though at times on the ghats while turning right I was not able to spot the on coming cars.
Space – ‘Unbelievable’
There is only one word for the amount of room at the rear 'Unbelievable'. The wheelbase is now 50mm longer (and a full 130mm longer than the Dzire) and the space is visually evident. (On the drive to Mahabaleshwar, a family from a Honda CRV took turns to sit in every seat of the car and they were truly impressed, especially with the amount of legroom and headroom.) Even with the front seat in their fully back position, the rear seat passengers legs don't touch the front seat. The angle of the seats are also perfect and make them the best place in the car to be in. The rear can easily accommodate 3 passengers comfortably and the rear armrest with built in glass holders gives the car an expensive look.
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The Boot is massive. At 460 litres, Tata claims it is the largest in its class.
Seating
The front seats are pretty firm, and they are quite large and there is plenty of space for the elbows on both sides. Front seat travel is also quite generous, so is the amount of steering wheel height adjust and driver seat height adjust too. Lumbar support has two stages, in and out, and didn't do the trick for me (having been used to the kind of lumbar support the Octavia offers). However like many other features, it’s a first for a car with this price tag.
With the Manza, Tata has also shown that safety is on their minds. The Manza is equipped with ABS, Dual Front Airbags, Collapsible Steering Column etc. The front Passenger airbag can also be turned off if it’s not required.
Plastics and Storage
Plastics used are of high quality and totally the opposite of what you would expect from a Tata product. The feel of the Dashboard is awesome and I particularly like textured feel and the slightly Grey colour near the windscreen which does well to block the sun’s reflection off it into the driver’s eyes (apart from the Front Defogger Vents which are clearly visible). The two tone fabrics, which are available across all variants, also look and feel very good.
Storage space is pretty good. The door pockets are not too big but each was able to hold two 500ml aerated water bottles. Seat pockets also are just adequate enough to hold a few magazines and some biscuits at most. However the Glove Box is very spacious. It could easily hold my laptop. Tata has put some very nice thought into it. The glove box is lit (though not cooled like in the Fabia and some other cars) and has a slot where you can keep your pen and visiting cards. There is also a Sliding tray under the Front Passengers seat.
Music
A 2 DIN music system from Blaupunkt, 4 speakers and 2 tweeters come standard across all the variants. The Aura also gets the Blue5 Bluetooth System - it can pair upto 5 phones, however can only be used with any one phone at a time. The system has a full keypad for the phone and along with making and answering calls, you can also stream music via a bluetooth enabled device. Also on the Aura there is a provision for an AUX and USB input (Though the ports are covered by a cheap piece of rubber which we have doubts on how long it would stay there). The music player can be controlled via a small remote or via the buttons on the Steering Wheel. You can also answer and end calls via 2 buttons on the steering wheel. The buttons however felt small and made of very thin rubber and I kept switching tracks unknowingly when I used the horn. The steering wheel though is large and has a big hornpad which feels good to hold and use.
Electronics
The OVRMs provided did their function well. View from them was adequate and the Electrical Adjustment knob for the OVRM felt very precise. The mirror's glass moved slowly and precisely and it was possible to set the exact position that you wanted with relative ease. The power window switches were also acceptable and the driver side glass has a one touch auto down function (It does not come up automatically too). Tata has used a dull gold paint on it but the paint finish there leaves a lot to be desired.
The switch to lock the windows (so that other passengers cannot operate it) is electric as is the switch for the AC and the Air Circulation position. Motors now activate the flap (to control outside air entering the cabin or inside air being re-circulated) rather than the use of cables. Cooling of the AC is good (we only got to test it in chilly weather - how it will perform in the extreme summer heat is yet to be seen) although the blowers could have been a bit more powerful.
The gear knob is wrapped in quality leather and feels good to hold and use.
Dashboard of Manza
The 4 dial speedo console has white backlighting and is small and classy. Looks like one you could maybe see on a supercar (Is Tata inspired by its latest Jaguar and Land Rover Acquisition?). The dials are about half the size you would see on a normal car, with the temperature and fuel gauge being located at the ends and of a smaller size than the Speedometer and the Tachometer. The dials are outlined which chrome (like on the Swift’s). This took me by surprise the minute I entered the car. However, the small odometer does take a while to get used to. The good news is that the meters are back where they belong, in front of the driver!
The turn indicator lights are also small. However the Multi Information Display which provides details like Total Mileage, Instantaneous Mileage, Range to empty, Clock and Outside temperature is quite large. The font though looks like the ones you see on small kid’s digital watches!
Another first from Tata is the Critical Rev limiter. Instead of the normal Red band on the Tach, the needle itself turns red on reaching 5000 RPM in the Diesel and 6000 RPM on the Petrol.
The indicator stalks require more than a slight tap to operate. They need to be pushed up or down quite firmly. The wipers do a pretty good job and can be operated at 7 different speeds (there are 5 Intermediate positions). While using the spray to clean the glass, the wiper makes one extra stroke 5 seconds after stopping the spray to clean up the residual water droplets. While returning from Mahabaleshwar in dreadful rain (people had parked their cars at the side of the road) the wiper operating at their highest setting did a good job. The front and rear fog lamps also helped. Doors require a good push to close but the outside door handles look really good. Wish the same could be said for the inner door handles though – looks like these were being sourced from older products.
Cabin noise is virtually non existent due to the excellent insulation and provided by Tata. Even at high speeds the Cabin is very silent. The only thing that can be heard is a slight tyre noise. This is completely different from the loud engine noise that is evident on the Linea and the Punto. The pedals like the Vista are placed closely together and there is no Dead Pedal. Wish Tata hadn't ignored that feature.
Features of the Tata Manza
Just to list the seemingly endless number of features that are available on the top end Aura + model, it is equipped with ABS, 2 Front Airbags, Air Conditioning, Tilt adjustable steering with a Collapsible Steering Column, Seat Belt with Pretensioners, Multi Information Display, a 2 DIN music system with Bluetooth and AUX / USB inputs, 4 Speakers with 2 Tweeters, Steering Mounted Audio Controls, Central Locking with Keyless Entry, Driver Seat Height Adjust, Front Seats Lumbar Support, Dual Tone interiors, Dual tone Fabrics, 2 Trip meters, Front and Rear Fog Lamps, Electrically adjustable OVRM's, 4 Power windows with Driver Side Auto down feature and large 15” wheels.
Another couple of Excellent Safety Features are that if the seat belts (Driver Side only) are not worn, once a car reaches 15kmph a buzzer starts ringing which is irritating and hard to ignore. The doors lock automatically upon reaching 20kmph. You can stop the car and unlock the doors, reach 20kmph again and the doors will once again lock themselves.
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Ride & Performance
The Quadrajet Engine (Diesel) / Safire (Petrol)
The diesel engine on the Manza is the same that we are beginning to see on many cars in India. Yes, we are talking about Fiat's 1.3 Multijet or Quadrajet as Tata calls it. It must be noted that though the same powertrain is used on many cars, each manufacturer has the engine in a different state of tune and refinement. In my view, Maruti-Suzuki has done the best job with it followed by Tata with the Manza. I guess everyone has beaten Fiat in their own game (compared to the Swift and the Manza, the Punto seems to lack power and is very noisy!).
The 1.3 Quadrajet on the Manza produces 90PS@4000RPM (4PS higher than on the Linea). Torque is rated at 200NM @ 1750-3000RPM (both figures easily beating the DZire and the Fiesta).
Even though the Manza is on the heavier side at 1210kgs, its power to weight ratio at 74.3PS/ton is much higher than the DZire (67.5PS/ton), the Fiesta (59.1PS/ton) and even the Linea (66.6PS/ton) hence it takes care of the extra weight with ease. The engine is pretty quiet - trust me, I had a 2003 Octavia and it sounded like a truck - and feels highly refined too. Above 2000RPM it feels like a little rocket. Hit the throttle a little and it zooms past the vehicle in front. Climbing up the Katraj and Wai Ghats was a breeze and we did it in such quick time that we didn't realize the climb section was already over.
The 1.4 Safire petrol unit produces 90PS@6000RPM and has Torque figures of 116NM@ 4750RPM. It has a 'Continuous Variable Cam Phaser' as Tata calls it along with an intelligent port resizing which translates into better power delivery and higher fuel efficiency. The engine is quiet, pretty Rev Happy and has a very linear acceleration curve.
Performance
Where the Tata Manza does take a beating though is the Turbo Lag. Below 1500 RPM absolutely nothing happens. Power starts to slowly creep in after 1700RPM and one can only really feel the boost once past the 2250RPM mark. This can become tricky if you stop on a climb and the clutch needs to be worked hard to build up the revs. Also you don't want to be overtaking anywhere below 1800RPM. Use the correct Revs and the car handles like a dream.
In the performance test (wet roads thanks to the rain) with the A/C switched off the car did 0-40kmph in 3.1 seconds, 0-60kmph in 7.2seconds, 0-80kmph in 11.5seconds and touched the 100kmph mark in about 17.5 seconds. Needed a few runs though as the wheels kept spinning at the start.
The accelerator is controlled by the Drive-By-Wire system (where a Rheostat sensor converts the amount of accelerator being depressed and passes the information to the ECU which tjem coverts the electrical signals into mechanical motion and it regulates the amount fuel going into the engine).
The Manza comfortably cruises at 140kmph and hit 160kmph though we were able to hold it for only a couple of seconds and felt it had could have done better if the road conditions permitted. Breaking is probably one of the best in its Class again and she comes to a halt from 100kmph in no time. Slam the brakes and the Manza comes to a halt quickly and in a perfectly straight line and you never feel the car going out of control (ABS doing a wonderful job).
Steering, Handling and Mileage
I felt the steering to be pretty precise and the car went wherever I wanted it to. Understeer does creep in if you are accelerating in a corner (did encounter a few on the ghats) but it’s relatively easy to overcome. Body roll is minimum and does not overwhelm you at any point. The 185/60 R15 Bridgestone tyres provided plenty of grip even in wet and treacherous conditions. Potholes and Speed Breakers didn't create a hassle and the car glides over them without shaking the passenger too much. This is by far the best handling Tata car ever made and also gives the other cars in its segment a good run for their money.
Gear Shifting is precise and though they are not short throws, they slot into place perfectly.
Thanks to the tall gear ratios, the car returns very respectable mileage figures. In the City with the Aircon on at all times the car returned 14.1 kmpl. On the highways at 120kmph and 2400 RPM the instantaneous fuel indicator was hovering between 21.2kmpl and 23.8 kmpl. The overall mileage for around 350kms (City, Highway, Ghats sections all included, and AC on at all times) was 16.1kmpl.
Pricing and Conclusion
So what does it mean? Is it worth it? Will the money you put in it be justified? Well, let’s put it down.
The ex-Showroom price of the top of the line Aura + in Pune is Rs.6.63 Lac. The price of the DZire Zdi is 6.75 Lac, the Fiesta 1.4 Sxi TDCi 8.02 Lac and the Linea Emotion PK is 8.43Lac.
The Manza is loaded with more features than its rivals and is priced well below them. The Manza is a whole 1.7 Lac cheaper than the Linea, has the same features, the same engine and is built on the same assembly line. Plastics quality, ride, handling and performance is also really good. So suddenly the Linea doesn't seem to make any sense. The Manza is definitely loaded with more features when put alongside the DZire (which is priced more or less the same as the Manza.) The Linea does however have a bit more style and brand name.
All this considered the Manza is definitely the most Value for money car in the segment. It is also by far the most spacious with space that could probably be expected from a Camry or an Accord. Tata cars are known to be very long lasting and the sales figures of the Indica/Indigo and the mileage of the Indicas does prove that.
Yes, there is a lot of scope for improvement but the Manza's Engine and build quality is leaps and bounds more refined, has better finishing, and an overall better product than any other Tata car. The Manza comes with a 2 Year / 75,000 kms standard warranty which can be upgraded to a 4 year / 1,50,000 kms warranty at a nominal price. At the price and the features provided, its rivals (especially the Linea and the Fiesta) will be a worried lot.
About the author
Based out of Pune, Quraish Umrethi is a die-hard car fan. Just 24 years old, he has driven and flown a range of cars and bikes most people don’t drive during a lifetime.
Vehicles he has driven include Civic, Camry, Hummer, Merc S Class, BMW Z4, Corvette, etc. and various bikes (SV650S, 2008 Hayabusa, R1, R6, Ninja 650, Hyosung 650-etc).
Quraish is an accomplished photographer and competitive kart racer. He is also a licensed commercial pilot.
Comparision Chart:
| Specification | Tata Manza Quadrajet Aura + |
Swift DZire Zdi |
Ford Fiesta 1.4 Sxi TDCi ABS |
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| Ex-Showroom Price (Pune) | 6,63,381 | 6,75,315 | 8,01,940 | |||
| AC | Yes | Yes | Yes | |||
| Power Windows | Yes | Yes | Yes | |||
| Power Steering | Yes | Yes | Yes | |||
| ABS | Yes | Yes | Yes | |||
| Airbags (D/P) | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
| CD Player / Bluetooth | Yes | Yes | Yes | No | Yes | No |
| Length (mm) | 4413 | 4160 | 4282 | |||
| Width (mm) | 1703 | 1690 | 1686 | |||
| Height (mm) | 1550 | 1530 | 1468 | |||
| Wheelbase (mm) | 2520 | 2390 | 2486 | |||
| Ground Clearance (mm) | 165 | 170 | 168 | |||
| Kerb Weight (kgs) | 1210 | 1115 | 1150 | |||
| Boot Space | 460 | 440 | 430 | |||
| Displacement (cc) | 1248 | 1248 | 1399 | |||
| Power (PS@ RPM) | 90 @ 4000 | 75 @ 4000 | 68 @ 4000 | |||
| Torque (NM@ RPM) | 200 @ 1750 | 190 @ 4000 | 160 @ 2000 | |||
| Min turning Radius | 5.1 | 4.7 | 4.9 | |||
| Tyres | 185/60 R15 Tubeless | 185/70 R14 Tubeless | 175/65 R14 Tubeless | |||
| Fuel Tank Capacity | 44 | 43 | 45 | |||
| Aqua | Aura | Aura ABS (Previously Aura +) | |
| Air Conditioner | Yes | Yes | Yes |
| Power Steering | Yes | Yes | Yes |
| Airbags | Yes | Yes | Yes |
| ABS | No | No | Yes |
| Immobiliser | Yes | Yes | Yes |
| Central Locking | Yes | Yes | Yes |
| Keyless Entry | No | No | Yes |
| Doors open and Seat Belt Not worn Buzzer | No | No | Yes |
| Front Fog Lamps | No | Yes | Yes |
| Rear Fog Lamps | No | No | Yes |
| Rear Defogger | Yes | Yes | Yes |
| Adjustable Steering Column | Yes | Yes | Yes |
| Tachometer | Yes | Yes | Yes |
| Factory Fitted Stereo with Bluetooth | No | Yes | Yes |
| Height Adjustable Driver Seat | No | No | Yes |
| Adjustable Lumbar Support | No | No | Yes |
| Steering Wheel Audio Controls | No | Yes | Yes |
| MID | No | Yes | Yes |
| 2 Tone Beige Interior | No | No | Yes |
Comments on this review
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Hello Sir,
Planning to Buy Tata Manza Diesel though our usage is less than 10 km/day... Is my choice good21 December 2011 By Suraj
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Hi Saumik,
I am looking for new Disel car. Manza, ETIOS, Hundia Esteam are short listed. Not confidant about Manza Disel for Engine Noise & Maintance. Can you help me?05 December 2011 By Ruturaj
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Guys... i own a (Manza Aura ABS - Quadrajet) from last 1 year. I would give 5 out of 5 to the car. Mileage, believe me guys is just awesome. My advice to all is Dont go for Saffire (petrol) version. Stick to Quadrajet (Diesel) variant. I am in Pune and i get city mileage of 20KMPL in city - which increases to 23.8 KMPL during express highway drives to Mumbai. I have completed 16600KM till date and didnt find any trouble at all with the car. Highway top speed acheived was 160 Kmph (car does not shake at all) when 'Speed Limit' indicator glows automatically - advising you to go slow, after all its indian roads guys :)
Bottomline: Tata Manza - Go for it...16 October 2011 By Saumik Bose
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@Siddhartha : Hi. Thanks for the lovely comment.
1. Aura is one of the Variants of the car, it is available on both Petrol and Diesel. I would personally suggest the Aura + which has a few more features than the Aura. (I am adding a variant comparision chart to the review)
2. The car is not all that big to drive. It will feel almost the same whether you are inside the Manza or the Vista. (Although, because of the additional boot, the Manza will require a little more space to parallel park)
3. Diwali is probably the best time to buy a car, thanks to the massive discounts on offer. Also this year with sales sheets not looking all that good, the discounts are even better. Another time is end of the year where manufactures are looking to get rid off all the old stock. A 2011 manufactured car will get a heavy discount in Jan 2012.
4. Resale value of Tata products is slightly on the lower side, but their cars are priced well, so you do not loose out on too much. Diesel cars these days tend to have a higher resale value than its petrol counterparts (High price of Petrol being the major contributing factor here)
5. Tata cars are not customisable for interior colours. However, you can do that at an aftermarket Accessories shop.
Hope this helps.
Love and Regards
Quraish Umrethi31 August 2011 By Quraish
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Hi Quaraish,
First let me congratulate you for an amazing review i have read so far about any car not just Manza.
With this post you have already sold me Manza even though i have some questions that i know you will answer.
1. What is the difference between Aura diesel different variants?
2. I just started driving(Beginner) and this is going to be my first car so i m a bit nervous whether i can handle such a big car or not?
3. what should i do to get the max diocount and is there any best time in the year to buy a car?
4. whats the resale value of the car?
5. Do we have a option to choose colours of interior as well?
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Last how could you write such a wonderful review?
Thanks again and look forward to your earliest response.
Regards,
Sidhartha
Noida25 August 2011 By Sidhartha
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Hi Quaraish,
First let me congratulate you for an amazing review i have read so far about any car not just Manza.
With this post you have already sold me Manza even though i have some questions that i know you will answer.
1. What is the difference between Aura diesel different variants?
2. I just started driving(Beginner) and this is going to be my first car so i m a bit nervous whether i can handle such a big car or not?
3. what should i do to get the max diocount and is there any best time in the year to buy a car?
4. whats the resale value of the car?
5. Do we have a option to choose colours of interior as well?
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Last how could you write such a wonderful review?
Thanks again and look forward to your earliest response.
Regards,
Sidhartha
Noida25 August 2011 By Sidhartha
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can indica manza run on water cooling instead of coolant?
03 June 2011 By Anil
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i am little bit confused which is better manza elan or toyota etios. please give me a valubale reply.. i want petrol version only
24 February 2011 By Dr Kishore
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Hy. Would like to tell u bout the stereo. There are nice tweaking setting in the audio menu. If u tweek the x bass and extra settings... and also Enaudio setting. the manza speakers give awesome sound quality with nice bass.... its just setting the controls right and u get gud quality.
22 January 2011 By ANish
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Your observations are totally wrong. Do you work for a rival company MAruti or Ford or Hundai? I have owned a Manza for last one year and I have not faced any of the problems mentioned by you or other in this article. Excellent car, excellent handling, excellent space and noise isolation and good pickup. Only thing which could have been better is the average for petrol car, I am getting 11.5 km/liter and 13 to 14 kmpl would be good average. My advicew to all if you are going ot buy a Desire or Feiesta or VErna then first test drive a Manza, compare the price and features and you will love Manza.
20 January 2011 By Ajay
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That is the simplest and correct explanation you can give..Good one Quraish..
24 December 2010 By Mani Chennai
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Thanks for the info, do you mean to say that it is in overall a low quality product. I would like to have a car which has the least problems. Those probs that you have mentioned, are they serious issues. I dont have a clue abt wht to check in cars. Pl reply
Diwakar20 October 2010 By Diwakar
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I have been having a Tata Manza since the last 2 months. I wouldn't say I was plagued with problems, but looks like these are not being addressed to effectively. Aura ABS - The good points, Smooth Driving and acceleration if one knows how to drive a diesel car, good aircon, great driver features, very good braking and the best of all ROOMY. Now, whom do we need to complement for the power, Tata or the Fiat. I would not say the gear shift is smooth and confident, clutch seems a little hard.
I have had three visits to the dealer, they have been extremely courteous and cooperative to listen to all the problems, but the net results is, I drive back with the same set of problems. Of course yes the car is new, it has been in the market for almost an year and I guess the company could very well release a version with least trouble.
I would greatly appreciate if problems are few and common with every car. What I have seen is different cars have different problems. So are we to assume that it is overall a low satisfaction product.
Few among the many probs:
1. Passenger side B Pillar Cover coming out
2. Low quality Wiper blades
3. Low quality stereo (already replaced once, prob stil exists)
4. Electrical loose contacts
5. Door Glass Beading bends in all directions
Now if one wants to have a total trouble free vehicle, choose models from Maruti, right from 800, the rubber and overall Quality is miles beyond.
I will wait for a month more, after which I will have the car up for sale.
Cheers19 October 2010 By Sandeep Roy
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can anyone tell me any information on a 1988 manza and maybe a photo I was offered one and I can't seem to find any information on a 1988 manza anywhere any help would be great ty e-mail shylilly_665@yahoo.com cause my luck I will not find this site again lol
09 August 2010 By Jen
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quarish,
are you saying manza is not a driver's car? and how is the clutch w.r.t swift. are they similar or manza is harder or lighter? gear shift seems to be smoother in dzire.
is the turbo lag so bad that makes the car to be hated w.r.t swift? i want a correct opinion on what this lag causes w.r.t usability. looking forward to your answers.08 August 2010 By Srikanth
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I am confused between vista aqua qudrajet & Indigo cs CR4, I have gone through the various specifications of both the vehicles but not able to conclude, as boot space of indigo is excellent but qudrajet engine of vista is another attraction , it will be really helpful if any body give suggestions.
08 June 2010 By Raj18k
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The only good TaTa is a burnt and thrown away TaTa.
Here's what to expect:
Noise, Noise, Noise - Your belts will squeak every time it rains
Water, Water, Water, leaking from the back doors
Aircondition? What airconditioning? malfunctioning.
CD Player - forget it, will skip and stutter while paying
During the warranty period, the morons will *temporarily* fix these things, but the problems will come back and when your warranty has expired, you will be stuck with all these problems again.02 May 2010 By LutherianX
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Thanks for the review.
No doubt Manza is good in its class & I intend to book Diesel Version of either Manza or a Dzire v soon after having done a lot of research on it. However before finally deciding on my first car, can anyone in this forum please clarify more on the ground clearance issue as this has been an area of pain for long for the TATA cars.
Any & All honest comments from people who have actually used it are most welcome & will be highly appreciated !!
Thanks,
Nagendra Gupta
Noida21 March 2010 By Nagendra Gupta
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I got my tata Manza on March 03, 2010. I have driven 1100 kms. till date. I love to drive the car. This is my first diesel car. When it slows down to 50-60 kms/hr, it becomes bit lazy on fifth gear. I have to switch to 4th. Now that may be the usual nature of diesel cars. At 100-120 it cruises fine. Good space inside gives a lot of comfort to the family. Now when I look at Dzire rear seats, I find a lot of difference. Tata has really made the difference by launching this car. Now a lot more are seen on the road.
15 March 2010 By Ajay Dogra
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Very informative.... has given a comprehensive coverage... good work. I appreciate it very much. May be you can comment on the milage / pros and cons of the petrol variant... manza safire...which I am thinking of buying.
12 March 2010 By Biji
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Though I have not purchased Tata Manza yet but by reading above review on Manza I am dying to bye one. Its a big Sedan the enigne is same from Fiat similer to Swift Dzire which will give an average of 20 Km (Diesel. The boot space is sufficient. The power is 90 hp with 1248 cc which is quite high. Nice audio system with bluetooth + USB input, so what else we need the car does't have alloy wheels. Any way I wish to buy Manza within a month and will update again after driving it.
Regards
Ajay Sawant
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Dubai/ UAE26 February 2010 By Ajay Sawant
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Hi Quarashi,
Thanks for the confirmation. I would probably go for it. Would be able to le me know, considering your experience with Manza, what are areas I need to look into before taking handover of the car from the show room? Assuming I am going for the top diesel model.
Your experience here will really me.
Thanks in advance.
Abhi16 February 2010 By Abhi
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Hi Abhi
The ground Clearance would not be too much of an issue.
If you're up for the 2000 km Drive then the Manza will be too.09 February 2010 By Quraish
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Thanks a lot for the detailed review. Just one small clarification -- Can Manza be considered for a very large drive, say around 2000km? Considering rain, bumps, pot holes for long interstate drive,will 165mm ground clearance be ok?
A quick comment would be appreciated.
Thanks
Abhi06 February 2010 By Abhi
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Dear Quraish
Thanks for the detailed review you have given on Manza, I dont find any section not covered. For the last one month I was not able to decide the car to purchase. And last week was ;left with two options Dzire VDI or Ford fiesta LTD. Edition. But suddenly happened to see Manza. I was surprised to look at the features.
Finally I would say that I need diesel car. So out of above three, which one I should book now. Please reply soonso that I can book now rather than researching.24 January 2010 By Ajay Dogra
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Dear Harpreeti
Since you have mentioned the ikon diesel I guess you are open to a diesel car too.
The Ikon diesel has not received the best of reviews and ford is also on the higher side where maintenance is present.
I haven't driven a Aveo for a longer stint so am not in a position to really comment on it. The DZire VDi though is an excellent car. I owned the Swift Diesel for a good duration and it has an excellent 1.3 multijet engine which you simply fall in love with. The only problem with the swift was the panel vibrations which can be be fixed though. With the above options I'd go for the Dzire Diesel.
Hope it helps.31 December 2009 By Quraish
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hi Quarish!
thanx for ur prompt response..though we really had likes the car and it has excellent reviews somehow many of my hubby's colleagues criticized it saying it is a tata car and it is going to create prob in the long run...and to top it all we have an unce who has been working with tatas in teh automobobile dept at a v high post and he has strongly suggested that we should not go for a tata car...so we rae kinda left with only options like-swift dezire(though we dont like the shape),chevy ls and new ford ikon diesel...since u have driven all the cars what do u suggest Quarish??24 December 2009 By Harpreeti
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Dear Quraish
Really a simple and nice explanation.Many 2 Thanx
Regards
Ashwini Kumar24 December 2009 By Ashwini Kumar
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Dear Mr Kumar
Torque and Horse Power both have their roles in the cars performance. Simply putting it, Torque is the amount of twisting force available at the wheel and helps the car accelerate from standstill or climb a steep slope easily. Once the car is moving you need the horse power to help you attain and maintain speed.
In lay mans terms: More the Torque, faster the car will accelerate from a standstill.
More the Power, higher the top speed that can be attained.
This is a very simple explanation of the difference between power and torque, hope it helps.23 December 2009 By Quraish
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Dear Quraish
Thanx for your valueable response to my query.As you have advised that petrol engine of Manza is also refined and smooth and power delivery is more linear. I have booked Manza Aura ABS saffire. You have also mentioned that petrol engine has same power but lesser torque,please let me know what will be its effect in driving? Sir ,in simple terms I want to know how it will be different from diesel engine in driving the vehicle without taking into consideration the cost and consumption of petrol.
With Regards
Ashwini Kumar
22 December 2009 By Ashwini Kumar
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@ Ashwini Kumar:
Why I suggest the diesel on the Manza is for the 1.3 Fiat engine that is used. IT is really very refined unlike the one on the Punto (Which apparently is Fiat's own car and their own Engine)
Also running cost is low on the diesel (even though the initial cost is high, but that is made up in the diesel's higher resale) due to which we tend to drive more than we would normally with a petrol (atleast that was the case with me when I got my first diesel car)
We did not have the Safire engine (we'll try to arrange for a test of that too shortly) to test though it has the same power output as the Diesel (90PS) but much lower torque. Power Delivery is more linear and the engine is smooth and refined.
@ Pranav :
Maintainance on the Tata cars is very minimal. You'd be spending the same amount whether you have the Dzire or the Manza. Hence, due to the higher level of equipment that the Manza offers and the Manza being more value for money, my vote is with it.
@ Harpreet:
As you have already seen that the Manza offers the most amount of features for its price. The Manza is more refined and better built than any other previous Tata car (Even the Vista). Even the old generation Indica's operated by Taxi's do loads of kilometers without much trouble (the one that crops up on old indica's is the AC belt which squeaks when water reaches it, we didn't face such a problem with the Manza in the short time we had in even in very heavy rain). Also if there is some issue it can be sorted out pretty cheaply.22 December 2009 By Quraish
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hello !
Gone through your review,wonderully written.We had aready kinda decided upon manza aura abs-petrol version...but when we referred to other colleagues ,they sggested since it is a tata car it usually gives complaints in the long run...there is kind of a rattling sound.is that true??we had also seen the chevy aveo-LS varient...thought it is also a good car but our budget is 6 lakh on raod..we r getting the LS varient in that which just has the basic features,and tata is giving so many features in the same price.what would u suggest the chevy LS model or the manza abs-petrol..Wheher it is a wise decison to go for manza or go for a GM model..plz do suggest.expecting a prompt response as we have to finalize within this week...thanks and regards.21 December 2009 By Harpreet
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Hi Quraish,
My running is very low so my preferrence is for Petrol car. I liked Manza but only worried about maintainence cost. What do you think Dzire or Manza.
regards,
Pranav21 December 2009 By Pranav
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Hi Quraish
Thanx for a useful review about Tata Manza.You have recommended Mr Pranav for thr Quadrajet engine. My running is less than 500 kms per month.Should I go for petrol or diesel model of Tata manza. Also I wish to have your opinion about the saffire engine being used in Tata manza.
Regards
Ashwini Kumar19 December 2009 By Ashwini Kumar
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It is the good one in its segment,but it should have some more CC's
19 December 2009 By Abhishek Vikram
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Hi Quereshi
Thanx for a useful review about Tata Manza.You have recommended Mr Pranav for thr Quadrajet engine. My running is less than 500 kms per month.Should I go for petrol or diesel model of Tata manza. Also I wish to have your opinion about the saffire engine being used in Tata manza.
Regards
Ashwini Kumar19 December 2009 By Ashwini Kumar
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18 December 2009 By Quraish , CarTradeIndia Expert
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Hi Pranav
These days diesel technology has really evolved. The 1.3 Multijet is a beautiful engine and gives lots of pleasure to drive. I'd suggest the petrol only if your running is really very low. Resale of the Diesel is also higher so the extra money you shell out initially is not much of a problem.
Both the Manza and the DZire will return between 10-12kmpl in the city (The Swift gives about 13kmpl and is much lighter than the DZire)17 December 2009 By Quraish , CarTradeIndia Expert
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Hi Quraish,
I am looking for Petrol model as my running is not that much. People say that in city Petrol Manza gives 9-11 average while Dzire gives 13-14. Kindly advice.15 December 2009 By Pranav
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Hi Pranav
Tata cars are virtually maintenance free. Cost of spares are also low as compared to many other manufacturers in India.
The fuel economy (figures are given above) is also very good considering its a sedan.
If you are having these doubts, you can blindly go for the Manza. With the features its definitely more value for money than its competition. Go for the Quadrajet diesel though. A much better buy.14 December 2009 By Quraish , CarTradeIndia Expert
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Hi Quraish,
I am planning to buy Dzire Petrol VXI model. I am comparing it with Manza Petrol Aura. But i am doubtfull on Manza average & maintenancecost. please advice.14 December 2009 By Pranav
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Hi Quraish,
Thanks for helping me to take decision on Manza on Dzire. I have booked Manza quadrajet - Aura Model today.
Regards
Rajesh Londhe
13 December 2009 By Rajesh Londhe
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Hi Quraish,
Thank you very much for your helpful review on the car. It really helped me make a decision on Manza n Logan. After what you suggest is definetly Manza a better choice n value for money. Thanx anyways.
Regards,
Mohammed Dhuliawala.30 November 2009 By Mohammed Dhuliawala
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Very usefull review
29 November 2009 By Raju Jose
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Also my recommendation has been sent out to my Industrialist friends; for ofcourse TATA MANZA !
29 November 2009 By Taher Attarwala
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Hi Akash
The car tested was the Quadrajet Aura +
Regards
Quraish26 November 2009 By Quraish , CarTradeIndia Expert
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Hi Mr. Quraish,
First of all, a great review really! Just one thing,was this review for petrol version of Manza? Or a diesel one? I can't believe that the Mileage you have given here is for Petrol, request you to please reply back to my question at the earliest of your convenience as I plan to book one soon and wanted to decide between petrol and diesel version.
thanks
Akash25 November 2009 By Akash
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The piolet Quraish has given a good flight to one's imagination with crystal clear vision of how TATA MANZA excells IN LOOKS, FUNCTION,& INNOVATION.
25 November 2009 By Taher Attarwala
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Yes ... Manza is a great car and value for money ... But I still love the Linea. It's definetly worth the extra 1.5 lacs.
"I got stuck ... at the sight of you...stuck"
24 November 2009 By John Manoah
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Great review.. the car is a great VFM package from TATA. Certainly the best sedan currently. I know a few people who have already booked one. I booked my test drive on their site indigomanza.com .. lets c.
24 November 2009 By Rajesh
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I think it is the best car in this price range.Very good review.
24 November 2009 By Ravishankar
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Definitely, I do agree with Rohan that this review is one of the best reviews you get on carwale.com. Mr. Umrethi has done lot of research and has given very precise information about everything which one or the other is looking for. The amount of pics taken by him gives a complete idea about the car and later detailed review helps a lot.
Even I am planning to buy one but, it seems it's still a long way as my budget is stuck between 3.5 - 4 lacs only.
If someone can help me out with good car within this budget then it would be just great.
Thanks a lot Mr. Umrethi for your kind review.24 November 2009 By Nitinkumar Nahata
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I agree to greater extent of the review but somehow I do not agree to comparison to Linea (Linea will be worried lot);
This car is nowhere near to Linea when it comes to style, build and class of Linea for which it charges premium but again in its class it becomes value for money when it is compared to cars like Honda city24 November 2009 By Gopal
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thnks for ur explanation
i am very happy and satisfied and decided to buy indigo maanza
because i was very confused in between maanza and swift dezire23 November 2009 By Sagar Sakla
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well, the presntation is very powerfull. all small aspects have been higlighted. any reader who is thinnking to buy any sidane will surely opt for the manza after reading this article.
23 November 2009 By Juzer Pardawala
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Cool review. Best in the lot. Keep up the good work.
23 November 2009 By Ben
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No Doubt as it is the best review written by Mr Quraish Umrethi, a commercial licensed pilot,ace photographer,and a kart racer. What a mixture? I hope to meet his guy soon as he is in Pune. Hi Umrethi, kindly contact me at pcrao10@gmail.com for congratulating you. I want your review on purchase of Fabia, or Jazz for our house, as we all four are divided.Bye 020-2585 1784
23 November 2009 By Dr P C Rao
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Very well written by Quereshi, a young guy of 24, has beautifully explained. By reading this, I am tempted to drive the Tata Manza for its full value.
23 November 2009 By Dr P C Rao
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As per the review it should be a good car but it's Diesal version yet to be tested. After all it's an Indian car and we should be proude on it with the feature given campare to other foreign cars. I think it will beat all cars in his catagory.
23 November 2009 By Tarkeshwar Tewari
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I like the Manza. But somehow it's not very stylish.
23 November 2009 By Govind
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Thanks for your feedback.
22 November 2009 By Rajesh Londhe
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The Manza is a good car and will be a good choice for a first car and the Quadrajet is definitely the better engine choice.
In your price range the Manza Aura and the Dzire Vdi would fit.
The Manza has more features than the Dzire though the latter is slightly more of a drivers car and more spirited to drive.
With your 6.5lakh budget go for the Aura ABS (stretch your budget just a little bit).
With that you get additional features over the AURA like ABS, Keyless entry, Driver Seat Height Adjust and rear fog lamps (apart from a few other not so important features). For 30K these features are worth every extra penny spent.
The Aura + will give you airbags and electrically controlled OVRM's though you'll have to shell out an additional 50K for that. So the Aura ABS will be the best bet.
The Aqua has very basic features and is an option only if budget is a real constraint.
Tubeless Tyres are standard across all variants.22 November 2009 By Quraish , CarTradeIndia Expert
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Hi Quraish
I have gone through the review on the website and impressed with car. I am going to buy my first car in near future and thinking of Manza as first choice.
My budget is 6.5 lacs (Max) and need to decide on model to be finalized. I am confused between AQUA QUADRAJET and AURA QUADRAJET. Please help me to decide which one I should go for. Do you want me to see other cars too in same category?
I am not clear that if tubeless wheels are available for all models or only for top model.
I hope to receive feedback from you.
Thanks in Advance.22 November 2009 By Rajesh
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:) i agree
22 November 2009 By John
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this must be cartradeindia's best review thus far!
22 November 2009 By Rohan
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